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164Two-Bulb Heater/Fan, (2) 250W BR40 Infrared Bulbs, Type IC, UL Listed for 60°C wiring (retrofits)

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  • Bulb heater/fans provide silent warmth and superior ventilation in a compact package.

    • Heat and ventilation functions may be controlled separately or in combination so you’re always in control of the environment
    • Very low profile, white polymeric grille blends into most ceilings
    • Air delivery shall be no less than 70 CFM and sound level no greater than 4.0 Sones. All air and sound ratings shall be certified by HVI. It will keep your bath free from steam or bathroom odors
    • Use 250W BR40-size infrared bulbs (not included) for comfortable heating performance
    • Quiet, highly efficient polymeric blower wheels maintain consistent power, while polymeric dampers prevent backdrafts and eliminate mechanical noise for reliable operation and a comfortable environment. UL listed for safety.
    • Sturdy steel housing, a plug-in, permanently lubricated motor, adjustable mounting brackets with keyhole slots and a 4” round duct connector with tapered sleeves combine to make installation logical and simple
    • Control operation with a choice of wall controls, available separately. 57W, 57V, 59W, 59V, 61W, 61V, 63W, 63V, 64W, 64V, 68W, 68V, 70TW, 71V, 72W, 72V, 269WL, 269VL, DH100W or T24H
    • Ceiling heaters are intended to provide supplemental heat and not to take the place of the home’s main heat source
  • Bathrooms up to (X) Square Feet60
    Ceiling InstallationYes
    CFM @ 0.10"70
    CFM @ 0.125"N/A
    CFM @ 0.25"N/A
    cUL ListedNo
    Duct DirectionHorizontal
    Duct Size4"
    ENERGY STAR® certified productNo
    Globe ColorN/A
    Grille FinishWhite Polymeric
    Grille Length15-5/8"
    Grille Width10-1/4"
    Heater wattage500
    Housing Dimension LxWxH8-3/8" x 14-1/4" x 6-3/8"
    Housing Height6-3/8"
    Housing Length8-3/8"
    Housing Width14-1/4"
    Humidity SensingNo
    HVI CertifiedYes
    Light Bulb Quantity2
    Light Bulb Wattage500 Watts (2-250W)
    Light Bulb(s) IncludedNo
    Lighting TypeInfrared
    Minimum construction space required2x8
    Motor engineered for continuous operationNo
    Product Weight9 lbs
    Project PackNo
    Rated Amps4.5
    Rated Sones - VerticalN/A
    Rated Watts545
    UL Listed for use over bathtubs or showers when connected to a GFCI circuitNo
    Wall InstallationNo
    Warranty1 Year
    Watts @ 0.1"N/A
    Watts @ 0.25"N/A
  • 164 is rated 2.9 out of 5 by 19.
    Rated 4 out of 5 by from So far so good! I purchased this model to replace an older version in my bathroom. My electrician suggested replacing my old model with the same brand and make for the easiest installation. I am pleased with the fan performance and like the heat lamp for winter use. I would recommend this product.
    Date published: 2017-11-17
    Rated 3 out of 5 by from A good unit, noisy, but effective Unit was installed by a contractor on a total bathroom re-mo. It works fine as a fan and as a heat lite, but is noisy! I've been under 'the quiet ones' and there's a big difference, but none of the 'quiet ones' come with heat lamp sockets so it is what it is. I just went thru a replacement of the temp sensor on the lites. The contractor didn't wire it so the fan had to be on if the lites were on. So it got turned on without the fan and poof, out went the sensor. Only available online and not too hard to change if you have elec. experience, but not for the amateur.. It's now wired so the lites won't come on unless the fan is on. It's very odd the product label on the inside doesn't state the 'max' lite wattage, I had to go online to look it up. It's also odd the label says to use a15 amp circuit, it seems like it should be 20 amps which is what I do have. If 'another day' Broan re-designs this thing they need to strive for "quiet". That's the only reason I rate it as "average".
    Date published: 2017-10-06
    Rated 3 out of 5 by from just installed it 162 I am looking for just the fan motor with fan for my other bathroom,
    Date published: 2017-08-26
    Rated 2 out of 5 by from Thermo fuse Installed a model 164 for a customer. I am back In the attic a few weeks later and determined the thermo fuse blew. Why did it blow? It appears other customers had same problem.
    Date published: 2016-12-21
    Rated 5 out of 5 by from 4 164A-C units installed in my house in 1983. All still working perfectly. Fans are getting a little noisy, but still work perfectly. Have worn out numerous,numerous bulbs. They don't have the most modern look, but I took the covers off and painted them to match the ceilings.
    Date published: 2016-12-13
    Rated 1 out of 5 by from Poor Quality I like many of the comments made have the 164 and the lights have stopped working after a month! How do you fix? I am an licensed architect and would not specify this or any Broan product!
    Date published: 2016-11-08
    Rated 1 out of 5 by from Fourth Person to Discover Same Defect I'm the fourth person writing in to report that, after initially working, the lights stopped working (fan still works). I've checked out the power, and that is not the problem. I did a continuity test on the wires, and even with bulbs in place continuity in the wiring in the box does not exist for the two lights. I bought a second identical fixture, and the continuity check worked for this fixture. So, the problem is internal to the fixture and occurs after the fixture has been used for several weeks. OK Broan - there's a common problem with your two-bulb heater/fan (model 164), AND YOU SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS AND TELL US HOW TO CORRECT IT. Three other reviews: "This product worked fine but now the lights have quit working" (rcorwin) … I have only used this unit for a couple of hours and now the lights do not work. The fan works but nothing else." "Extremely poor wiring and eventual problems (Wi4x4Man) … "It worked for about 1 week when suddenly both lights quit working but the fan still worked. The switches for the heat lamp and the light were providing power, and instead it was in the fixture itself." "It quit working (Allen)… "After one week of use, the lights stopped lighting. Doing some debugging I find that the current to the lights is too low and will not light the 2- 250 watt bulbs. Fan works on one switch and somehow the low current is also trying to run the fan. "
    Date published: 2016-11-04
    Rated 4 out of 5 by from Great unit for the price It was relatively easy to install. The wireing diagram could be improved but I got through ok and I'm not an electrician. I replaced one that was similar. This is quieter
    Date published: 2016-08-26
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  • Can I buy a new 164-G, pullt the motor / fan assembly out and use it to replace an old, noisy 164-G fan.?

    Other than the increasing noise, which sounds as though there is a worn bearing, everything works fine -- it was originally installed by a professional bathroom remodeler.
    Asked by: Norman
    Yes you can. It's very easy to do
    Answered by: MrKennyAll
    Date published: 2017-02-25

    can this unit run off a 15 amp breaker im using about 10 amps at the most if everything is on right know?

    Asked by: nickl
    With 2-250 watt heat bulbs on an the fan running, the unit is rated to draw 4.5 amps, Your 15 amp breaker should handle the 164 plus the other load.
    Answered by: Don76
    Date published: 2014-02-15

    On the 164 model, what is the yellow wire for? Can the fan, the heater, and the lamp all run off the same switch?

    Asked by: Taz
    The yellow wire is for the fan The fan and bulbs can be controlled from a single switch although I don't recommend it, because the fan would defeat the purpose of the heaters. You want the heat directed downward, not exhausted out. I prefer that the heaters be controlled via a timer switch.
    Answered by: Don76
    Date published: 2014-01-25

    How to install in first floor existing ceiling? Can I screw one side of box to joist and not use hangers?

    Asked by: H. P.
    I think you can but you can only mount against the side opposite the fan. Installed like this it will be more noisy. It's noisy in the first place and if rigid mounted against a joist the noise will transfer throughout the whole area of your house. Also the lites generate heat. From a fire safety standpoint it's best to have an air gap. I'd at least use some lath like shims between the box and the joist., and metal would be better. The hangers provide an isolation of the unit from the house frame, will dissipate heat better, and will be less noisy, but you must have a good reason to want to do this. Do be prepared for noise and do something about dissipating heat..
    Answered by: pvfmn
    Date published: 2017-10-06

    Heat Lamps

    My house was built 10 years ago and has 3 Broan 2 Bulb heat lamps installed by the builder. Last week one of them, 2 bulb, stopped working Both bulbs stopped same time. I checked all the GFI in the bathroom and all are working. The heat lamp has its own switch. I purchased 250 watt heat lamp bulbs and replaced and that didn't help. All the other lights in that bathroom work, ceiling cans shower fan, vanity lights etc. Does the Broan have some kind of fuse in the unit? Any assistance would be appreciated. I own 5 homes and all have Broan heat lamps and I have never had a problem before. Thank you
    Asked by: Gary
    Gary, same thing happened to me. It got turned on without the fan, and it eventually stopped giving lite. There's 2 heat sensors inside the unit. On the fan end is one for the fan, the wires are blue and red. That's not it. The one for the lites was hiding inside the little wiring box on mine. I ordered one online from 'Appliance Parts" and it cost less than $10 including freight. Look inside that little box by taking out the 1 screw inside the lite housing, it's got white wires and changing it, replacing it is all you have to do, but it might not be the last time when you do it. Most important, the fan has to be on if the lites are on. PVFMN
    Answered by: pvfmn
    Date published: 2017-10-06
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